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<title>Discord — Spyware Watchdog</title>
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<div class="nav"><a href="index.html">← Catalog</a></div>
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<img src="../images/discord_logo.png" alt="Discord Logo"/>
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<h1>Discord</h1>
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Discord is an instant messaging application for macOS, Windows, GNU/Linux,
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Android, and iOS. Discord is used to communicate via voice chat and
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text chat, and has image-sharing and file-sharing capabilities.
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<h2>Spyware Level: <span class="red">EXTREMELY HIGH</span></h2>
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Thanks to Richard Stallman for linking to our article
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<a href="https://stallman.org/discord.html"> here</a>!
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The spotlight is very much appreciated.
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<a href="../articles/discord.html"
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class="icon"
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src="../images/discord-no-way-2.gif"
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alt="Discord? No Way!"
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<p>
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Discord is spyware because it collects all information that passes
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through its communication platform. As Discord is a centralized
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communication platform, all communications have to go through
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Discord's official servers, where all of that information can
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potentially be recorded. The vast majority of said information has
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been confirmed to be recorded, such as all communications between
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users. Discord has also been confirmed to use other spyware features
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such as various forms of telemetry. Discord's main source of income is
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from investment, from which it has received over $279.3 million
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dollars<sup><a href="#s4">[4]</a></sup
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>. Discord cannot be built from source and the source code for Discord
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is unavailable.
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<h3>Discord does not make its source code available</h3>
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It is impossible to download and examine Discord's source code, which
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means that it is impossible to prove that Discord is not spyware. Any
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program which does not make its source code available is potential
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spyware.
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<h3>
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Discord confirms that it collects large amounts of sensitive user data
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Discord explicitly confirms in its privacy policy<sup
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><a href="#s1">[1]</a></sup
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that it collects the following information:
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<li>IP Address</li>
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<li>Device UUID</li>
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<li>User's e-mail address</li>
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<li>All text messages</li>
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<li>All images</li>
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<li>All VOIP data (voice chat)</li>
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<li>Open rates for e-mail sent by Discord</li>
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Discord does not explicitly confirm that it collects this information,
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but still collects it by default:
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Logs of all of the other programs that are open on your computer
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The implications of this information can be broken down like this: By
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recording your IP address, Discord can track your general location
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(about as precise as which county you are in). Discord can also tell
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which devices you use, as it uniquely identifies each device, and how
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much you use those devices, as it can record your device usage habits
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(since Discord is usually open in the background so that it can
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receive messages). Discord also records every single interaction you
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have with other users through its service. This means that Discord is
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confirmed to log every conversation that you have through Discord, and
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record everything that you say on Discord, and view all images that
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you send through Discord. Therefore, none of your interactions on
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Discord are private. Discord's privacy policy also contains several
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occurrences of phrases such as "including but not limited to," which
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is an explicit confirmation that Discord contains more spyware
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features that are not disclosed to the user.
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<h3>
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Discord contains features which allow integration with other spyware
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platforms
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Discord contains the opt-in spyware feature known as "social media
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integration." This allows you to sync your persistent user identity on
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Discord with your persistent user identity on other spyware platforms,
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such as Facebook and Twitter. In its privacy policy<sup
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><a href="#s1">[1]</a></sup
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>, Discord has confirmed that if you opt in to this spyware feature,
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Discord will obtain an undisclosed amount of access to information
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obtained about you by the spyware platforms that you choose to sync
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with.
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<h3>Discord contains a process logger</h3>
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Discord has been confirmed to monitor the open processes on your
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operating system. This is a spyware feature known as a "process
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logger" that is generally used to record your program usage habits.
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This was confirmed by the CTO of Discord in a Reddit thread.<sup
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><a href="#s2">[2]</a></sup
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In the same thread, the CTO also elaborates that this spyware feature
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(the monitoring of processes) is mandatory for several features of the
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platform. The CTO and a Discord engineer go on to claim that Discord
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does not use the process logger to send records of the open processes
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on the user's computer.
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The test to prove that Discord logs processes was done again by the
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writer with procmon on 4/11/2019 with the features: "Use data to
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customize my Discord Experience" and "Display currently running game
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as a status message" turned off. Discord did
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<font color="lime"><b>NOT</b></font> log all of the processes open
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this way. However, when setting the "Display currently running game as
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a status message" turned on, the behavior described in<sup
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><a href="#s2">[2]</a></sup
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was replicated. You can see that behavior here:
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<img
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class="screenshot"
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src="../images/discord_process_logging.png"
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alt="Discord process logging as described in [2] confirmed with procmon"
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Discord claims this feature can be disabled through the UI.
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This is sadly <a href="https://github.com/snapcrafters/discord/issues/23">false</a>.
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Because of the nature of closed-source software it isn't possible for
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either this article or the Discord developers to prove how much
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information is being sent to Discord's servers when the process logger
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is turned on. But it's at least possible to turn it off.
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<h3>Discord uses its process logging for advertising</h3>
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Discord shows this in its privacy option here:
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<img
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class="screenshot"
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src="../images/discord_data.png"
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alt="Discord process logging usefulness"
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That the process logging features of Discord are now being recorded on
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Discord's servers as a form of telemetry (spyware), and removes
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speculation about why this feature exists. It is clarified by Discord
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that this spyware feature is used for advertising to its users.<sup
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><a href="#s8">[8]</a></sup
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This means that Discord is
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<font color="red"
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><b
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>recording the programs you have open to build a statistical model
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of what programs you might buy/license in the future.</b
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<img
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class="screenshot"
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src="../images/discord_2.png"
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alt="Discord confirms process logging is used for advertising"
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Discord tries to force some users to give their Telephone numbers
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Discord will lock users out of its service and will not allow them to
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continue using it without giving their phone number or contacting
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Discord support. This is especially true for TOR users.
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This kind of feature is designed to extract very
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personal information out of its users (phone numbers). The criteria
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for locking out users isn't known.
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You can be locked out of your account for spamming
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multiple users in dm's a short ammount of time,
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This is due to the spam protection
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class="screenshot"
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src="../images/discord_verify.png"
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alt="discord phone verification"
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<h3>Discord receives government requests for your information</h3>
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Discord has confirmed in an email correspondence<sup
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><a href="#s6">[6]</a></sup
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that it does receive government requests for information. So, we know
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that the government potentially has access to all of the information
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that Discord collects about you. You can read a copy of the email
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image posted in the source
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href="https://spyware.neocities.org/images/discord%20government%20requests.png"
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>here</a
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in case the link there dies.
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<h2>Speculation on Discord's future</h2>
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It's unknown whether Discord currently is or isn't selling user
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information. Currently, Discord has been able to consistently raise new
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investment capital, which is at a level where it could reasonably be
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covering all of its operating costs. However, Discord, like any other
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company, is not going to exist in a constant state of investment.
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Discord is going to have to transition away from an
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investment-financed business model to a revenue model that exclusively
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relies on generating revenue from the users of the platform.
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Discord has several ways of making money. It can license emoji's and
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other features of the program with Discord Nitro<sup
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><a href="#s5">[5]</a></sup
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>, or it can make money licensing video games through its new online
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store, as a competitor to <a href="../articles/steam.html">Steam</a>.
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However, both of these revenue sources may not be enough. Discord has
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raised $279.3 million dollars<sup><a href="#s4">[4]</a></sup>
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and it has to return on this investment. (which is more than 279.3
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million dollars that has to be paid back)
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If Discord is not able to satisfy its obligation to its investors,
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it has a third option- selling user information to advertisers.
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Discord is already datamining its users to produce its
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recommendation system,<sup><a href="#s8">[8]</a></sup> which means
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that it is already turning its userbase into extremely valuable,
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sellable, advertising data. Discord has 130 million users<sup
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><a href="#s7">[7]</a></sup
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>, and it can produce a statistical model of what games each user (who
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does not opt-out of advertising) owns, plays, and wants to buy. This
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is incredibly valuable information that Discord can sell if it cannot
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reach its profit obligations with its current revenue model. If Discord
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was a successful games store, then it would not need to do this. But
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if Discord gets in financial trouble, it probably will be forced to
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liquidate this asset.
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<h4>Further Reading:</h4>
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<a
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href="https://old.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/8lkb5s/friends_don't_let_friends_use_discord_the/"
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>Friends Don't Let Friends Use Discord</a
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href="https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/43lqyb/why_is_discord_recording_our_open_programs_and/"
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href="http://wayback.archive-it.org/all/20171226205723/https://discordapp.com/company"
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<a href="https://discordapp.com/nitro">Discord Nitro</a>
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>Discord receives government requests. No plans on adding E2E
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Encryption any time soon.</a
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href="http://web.archive.org/web/20180228033615/https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/80l8se/discord_receives_government_requests_no_plans_on/"
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